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As a linguist, I often get asked about best ways to learn languages. This post is in response to some of my readers’ questions on how to begin learning Russian.
First, the Big Linguistic Picture: all languages in the world are divided into Language Families. The largest such family is the Indo-European Family of Languages originating from Sanscrit. It includes Hindi, MOST European Languages, Persian, etc.
Which means that we all: the English speakers, French Speakers, German Speakers, Spanish Speakers, Russian speakers, Hindi speakers and… Persian speakers (in other words, Iranians), belong to one huge family. Kinda makes you pause and think, doesn’t it?
The Russian Language is part of the Slavic group of languages, specifically, the Eastern Slavic sub-group, together with Ukrainian and Belorussian.
Russian Language is one of the 4 official UN languages and one of several principal languages on the planet. It is spoken as the first language by 170 mln people in Russia and abroad, and several times as many as a second or additional language.
Russian is considered a difficult language to learn by Westerners based on its relatively complex grammar and different alphabet. But take it from someone who mastered several different languages – I can tell you from personal experience that English is a much crazier language than Russian, yet scores of people around the world learn it and speak it every day.
So, no worries! Just take a deep breath and use my formula for learning any language: CONCENTRATE ON SIMILARITIES RATHER THAN DIFFERENCES, and I promise, your language learning experience will be a breeze!
I’ve done some research for you on ways to learn Russian based on what’s available on the market today. These seem to be the best options, both paid and free.
1. PAID: Berlitz is an old and reputable language learning company. They are not cheap, but here is an Internet option, which may be quite affordable. They require filling out a form in order to get a quote. This is a more serious program.
http://www.berlitz.us/Core/Display.aspx?pageId=269
2. PAID: This seems like an interesting and affordable program:
http://russian-accelerator2.com/?gclid=CJ23r4W1pK4CFcjc4AoddCurSg
They have beginners (Russian Accelerator) and advanced (Accelerator II) courses. This is a simplified program and may not offer reading ability. But I like their methodology and approach.
TIPS: Here are some tips on learning Russian fast
http://learnrussianfast.com/how-to-learn-russian-fast.html
3. FREE: This site has free insights and examples, including Russian alphabet, common phrases, numbers, etc.:
This is a good reference site. It’s a good idea to read through all the available info here to get a frame of reference. However, I’d recommend to combine it with an interactive online (or in person) course, so you could also hear how words are pronounced, otherwise, it may be a bit confusing.
TIPS: in order to be able to read, it is a must to learn the Russian alphabet, which is available at the above free site.
To me, learning the Russian alphabet to be able to read is very important, since all signs in Russia would be in Russian and you really don’t want to feel handicapped.
I noticed that many American programs skip this step and try to teach you how to learn to speak phonetically without anchoring it in written language. To me, it’s a one-sided approach. But, perhaps, for those who want to just get the flavor for the language it’s a justified shortcut, which will allow you to start using the language quickly. It may be easier to learn how to speak first and then, eventually, take the next step and learn how to read as well.
That said, when I taught my students, they learned Russian alphabet in 45 minutes and could read in Russian within 2-3 lessons. All, because I concentrated on similarities instead of differences.
So, don’t let them scare you by saying that Russian alphabet is difficult. The look and roots of the Russian letters are much the same as Latin letters. Both alphabets originate from Ancient Greek. Some letters may sound different – so what? It’s not Chinese, after all, with its several thousand written characters. It’s just 33 letters! No big deal!
In fact, as a linguist, I am trained to spot similarities and common roots among words of different languages. You’d be amazed how many similar roots there are in Russian and English as well as other European languages. All because, as I pointed out earlier, they are all part of the huge Indo-European Language Family. Which means that even Hindi language roots will be similar.
4. FREE: Another Free program – I think it’s a good one! Worth checking out.
http://www.russianlessons.net/
5. PAID: Also, check out this interesting program – could be fun and relatively affordable – which will be available in May.
http://www.languagemetropolis.com/?gclid=COC9lpS6pK4CFYeK4AodCAu8TA
6. PAID: New, very promising course, which combines audio, visual and interactive capabilities. They call it Dynamic Immersion program. Worth checking out!
http://www.rosettastone.com/learn-russian
Hope all this helps and please leave your comments to let me know how you are progressing!
Wishing you much fun and best of luck on your new language adventure!
This post is ever-growing based on various new questions and comments.
A WORD ABOUT SYNTHETIC vs. ANALYTICAL LANGUAGES:
European languages are divided into these main groups: Slavic, Romanic and Germanic. They are also divided into analytical (Germanic and Romanic) and synthetic (Slavic) types. Strangely enough, Latin, from which the Romanic languages, and to a certain degree, Germanic, have descended, is a quintessential synthetic language.
Synthetic languages are characterized by the usage of a large number of prefixes, suffixes and endings, which are added to the root of the word in order to express the nuances and subtleties of meanings, thus making the language rich and flexible. This is why the words in Russian, and other synthetic languages, are generally longer. Because of this, synthetic languages can afford to have a rather simple syntax and tense structure, as well as flexible sentence structure. Gender distinctions (masculine, feminine and neutral) also become very important. These are main characteristics of the Russian language as the most prominent representative of the Slavic group of languages and of the synthetic type of languages today.
Funny anecdote: The crucial importance of the correct prefix usage in Russian is demonstrated by this hilarious and infamous moment in international relations. After being elected, President Obama started his heavily advertised “reset” policy with Russia (generally, a very good idea of course). To much fanfare, the US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived in Russia with a “reset button display,” which was especially constructed. She was to symbolically press the button together with the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov. The button was proudly shown to the cameras as the two dignitaries were about to press it. At that moment, Lavrov’s eyes fell on the word written on the display in Russian. The word read “peregruzka.” Lavrov raised his eyebrows, but being a quintessential diplomat, he pressed the button and accepted the display as a memento without flinching. However, he added that the word should have been “perezagruzka,” not “peregruzka.” These two words sound pretty similar to an untrained foreign ear, but they have a distinctly different meaning in Russian. The root here is the same: “gruz,” which means “load.” Alas, as always, the devil is in the detail, as the subtlety here makes or breaks the word. “Pere-gruz-ka” means “overload,” while “pere-za-gruz-ka” means “reset” or “reload.” How’s that for an epic language fail! Honestly, Hillary should’ve consulted someone who really knows Russian. I’m sure some heads have rolled as a result of this incident. 😉
On the other hand, analytical languages rely on a heavy usage of definite/indefinite articles, various particles (eg. of, for, from) and added modifiers to express the nuances of meanings. Example: “little” as in “little girl,” expressed in Russian with one single word “devochka,” or “my little daughter,” expressed in Russian with one word “dochen’ka,” or another variation with subtle difference: “dochurka.” Another example: “little kitty,” expressed in Russian as “kotionok” – masculine & “koshechka” – feminine. The following example illustrates the difference between Russian and English even better: in English you have but one option if you want to say “little bunny,” meanwhile in Russian you have a myriad of endearing options: “zaichik,” “zaichonok,” “zaika,” “zain’ka,” “zaichichka,” etc. All these words, with subtle, but distinctive differences to a Russian ear, can only be expressed in English in one way and with 2 words.
The word is generally rigid and unchangeable, although every analytical language will have some synthetic characteristics – some more than others – and a certain amount of prefix/suffix/endings usage. Example: Spanish “el gato” – “a male cat,” “el gatito” – “a little male cat.” Notice again, how much more flexible and expressive Spanish is compared to English. One word vs. 3 words! While Spanish is an analytical language, it has more synthetic influence from its parent, Latin, and therefore is more flexible than typical Germanic languages, like German and English. Because of this rigidity, analytical languages rely very heavily on complex syntax and tense structure.
Again, not all analytical languages are born equal. Complexities vary. For example, English tense structure is more convoluted than most. Italian, Spanish and German have more streamlined and logical tense structures. Article usage: Italian, Spanish, German have highly logical and predictable article usage. English is characterized with a highly illogical and “frivolous” article usage. Sentence structure is again quite logical and easy to grasp in Italian and Spanish. German has a more convoluted sentence structure, where words are added seemingly ad infinitum, thus making German language sentences some of the longest in the world. Gender usage also varies widely. It matters in Italian, Spanish (in words like “el gato” and “la gata” – male and female cat) and German. However in English grammar, gender has zero importance, thus oftentimes creating confusion. To clarify, a writer or speaker has to add words like “his/her” or “male/female”.
In some analytical languages, inflection plays an important role, for example, in Spanish. This is one of the things I love about Spanish (specifically, Castellano – proper Spanish), as the interesting inflection usage gives it a special singing and romantic quality. Same is true for Italian. Just to mention: incidentally, Chinese language is a heavily analytical language, where in addition to all the above, inflection plays a crucial role.
A note about English Language: All the above notwithstanding, English is still the language of Shakespeare, Oscar Wilde and Jane Austen; it is the the most spoken international language on our planet, and its popularity is not going anywhere.
I’m going to make a prediction here: since English is spoken by so many people around the world, and not all of them “dig” the complexities of the English article and tense usage, we are living in the period of simplification of many of the old English rules. All languages change in time, adapting to the demands of the present day and its users. Within our lifetime, English – which oftentimes doesn’t follow its own rules – will change, to become more user friendly.
I love writing in English, undoubtedly because I’m a sucker for a challenge. 😉
COLLEGE PROGRAMS:
This is in response to a recent reader’s question about what colleges have good Russian and linguistics study programs.
You should check with colleges that are known for their great humanities programs. Generally, many large and well-known colleges have language programs. This includes many Ivy League colleges, such as Princeton and Columbia. NYU (not Ivy, but close) has a good language program.
Bard College, Red Hook, NY – my fave college in Upstate NY – has an excellent study abroad/exchange program, including Russia. A very old and traditionally excellent Russian (language and lit) program: Amherst College, Amherst, MA. Also, a very extensive Russian program: Hamilton College, Clinton, NY. This college is very selective. Study/work abroad programs are excellent for expanding your horizons and learning from native speakers.
By the way, Russia has recently initiated a very nice Russian college study program geared towards foreigners who want to study in Russia. Check with Moscow University and St.Petersburg University.
For additional tips and details read conclusion and disclaimeres below.
CONCLUSION:
If you are a serious student of Russian, there is no substitute for hard work, and lots of practice with native speakers. A good system and talent helps too, although, anyone, and I mean ANYONE, can learn to communicate in Russian (or any other foreign language) freely, with some work and persistence!
The ancients used to say that “as many languages you know, that many times you are a human being.” This is a very profound statement, as with every language you learn, you also understand better other cultures and other people’s points of view. I like to think that if everyone on Earth cared to learn at least a few languages, there would be much more peace and friendship on our planet.
Generally speaking, learning foreign languages is like opening up new worlds, it’s akin to broadening your tunnel vision and enriching your life. It’s a very exciting and fascinating experience, however, if you want to master any language, you also have to overcome some formidable challenges.
Be your very own, personal Columbus and discover the new world, but don’t forget to have fun along the way!
I believe that my positive and inclusive personal philosophy of language study, on which I also expand in my new release, THE EARTH SHIFTER (top-rated metaphysical fantasy/thriller, which is based on true history and world events), will benefit anyone who is seriously interested in Russian, and other foreign languages. This includes general public, academics, students, writers and teachers. One of the main characters of THE EARTH SHIFTER is Maxim Elfimov, professor of comparative linguistics at Moscow University.
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P.S. Additional disclaimers below are in response to a certain comment I received:
1. This post is not a teaching course in Russian, but merely a response to several of my reader’ requests to provide links to potentially viable sources for BEGINNING to learn the Russian language and to share the tips for an easier assimilation of a foreign language. The discussion about synthetic vs. analytical languages is generally advanced, however, it is broken down is such a way so as even the beginners could follow it.
2. I am sharing this information publicly as a helpful and free resource. I neither make any profit, nor have any other interest in anyone following my advice or links. I do it purely out of the goodness of my heart and as a service to humanity.
3. My sources and links are intended for general public (not for academics or advanced students of Russian). However, the language discussion above can be a great supplement for both beginners and academics/advanced students of Russian. That said, scholars and academics should have access to proprietary academic programs and language immersion opportunities, such as study in Russia or any other native country or practice with native speakers (always advisable for anyone learning a foreign language). Make sure you have a good system and good teachers if you are an advanced student, but even more importantly, as with mastery of anything, there is simply no substitute for plain, old-fashioned hard work.
4. The above discussion of synthetic vs. analytical languages is in part based on my study under the wing of the distinguished Russian Foreign Languages School, and in part, on my own lifetime experience, observation, and practice of various languages.
5. I neither recommend, nor endorse the above links to Russian language study sources; I am merely listing several potentially viable ways to learn the Russian language. You may find that some of these courses are for you, and others are not. It is entirely up to you to discern what works for you, and what doesn’t.
6. If I were interested in being a teacher of Russian, my students would be learning it at a much faster pace than average, I guarantee it! I was fortunate to start my study of foreign languages in the 1980s, under the wing of the distinguished Soviet/Russian foreign language school, which was considered the world’s best language school of its day and which gave me an unbreakable, rock-solid foundation for theory, philosophy, practice and general knowledge of languages. However, at this stage of my life, I am simply not interested in this vocation, although I’d enjoyed teaching various languages when I was young and first starting out. But, having quickly found that I wasn’t utilizing even a tiny portion of my talents, I decided to do much more with my life.
7. If you read my bio, you’ll notice that I communicate in all languages I speak with native, or near native, fluency, and moreover, that I write professionally in English. It is my personal and professional opinion as a polyglot and author that English is an illogical language, and as such, it is difficult to get just right. The biggest problem with English is the illogical use of articles (I know the difference very well since I also speak Spanish, Italian and German), and the usage of tenses that is also somewhat frivolous.
In this instance, I do not talk about barely surviving on marginal language skills; rather, I’m talking real language skills here.
8. Finally, this is my personal author blog forum, and as such, it is for people who want to be educated and entertained. I welcome all nice readers, as well as all constructive and positive comments here.
Lada Ray, M.A. (comparative linguistics)
Feng Shui Master, Financial Consultant, Author
Reblogged this on 1earthnow and commented:
Great Resources! Now I know if I want to speak like a native, excellent advice.
Thanks, Maddy, for a nice comment and re-blog. Cheers!
Lada
Very interesting post! I have a huge passion for foreign languages and right now I’m in Bratislava in order to learn Slovak.
I have been studying ancient Greek and Latin for 5 years during my high school; this is helping me a lot now that I am trying to learn a slavic language.
Once I will have mastered Slovak, I will probably move to Russian! I am strongly fascinated by this language.
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Russian language is very similar to polish lang.
Thank you I look forward to learning! This was very helpful. 🙂
Thank you for the post!
I would like to suggest my approach to learn Russian
It is here http://www.efficientrussian.com/how-to-work-with-our-russian-courses/
I analyzed how successful linguists (Kato Lomb for example) learned the languages, so this is the result of my research.
But actually, this method works for any language! I learned English this way and now I’m learning Spanish very successfully and want to start German in May.
Thank you for your input, Dmitry.
This sounds like an interesting system. Anything that helps people master Russian, and other languages easier, is welcome here as a link.
A discussion and questions are welcome as well. The readers can feel free to answer questions from others.
Keep in mind, this is a moderated forum. Educational links are fine but no commercial self-promo is allowed!
This is just a reminder for everyone. You are fine, Dmitry! Keep it up!
Cheers,
Lada
JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE:
Anything that helps people master Russian, and other languages easier, is welcome here as a link.
A discussion and questions are welcome as well. The readers can feel free to answer questions from others.
Keep in mind, this is a moderated forum. Educational links are fine but no commercial self-promo is allowed!
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How did you learn your multiple languages? Just a total immersion method? Have you heard of the Pilmseur Method? It’s advertised so heavily that I find it a bit suspect.
Yes, I am very interested in learning Russian. So many people in my community speak it and I’m certain I could find others with whom I could practice.
Now, if I could only master English…Lol!
Comparative linguistics was my major at the University (one of The Earth Shifter characters, Maxim Elfimov, is a comparative linguist too, as you may recall, because it was so right for his character), and I always loved languages. Of course, cultural immersion is a must. I spent quite a bit of time in Span and Cuba for my Spanish, a summer in Italy, another in Germany/Austria, and of course, many years in the US for English.
If you have a Russian contingent nearby, you should capitalize on that to learn to speak. There may also be groups or clubs nearby, like on meetup.com.
Pimsleur method: heard about it, but can’t say whether it’s good or not. I suggest shying away from the gimmicks. For example, when someone promises that you’ll learn the language phonetically, without bothering to learn the alphabet or rules, which enables you to read and build phrases on your own, it’s like building a castle in the sand.
Cheers 🙂
Thanks, I can read Cyrillic, but I can’t understand it! HAHAHA! Weird, right?
I have a network of Russkies, they’d be happy to school me on this!
Cute, MC! 😉 It’s so easy to learn the meanings of words, I think. Just use my method: emphasizing similarities before differences – that’s the KEY, remember? 😉
Good luck!
HAHA! I will never forget!
Very interesting article, Lada. As someone who doesn’t know much about linguistics, it was very informative and interesting. 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Cheers 🙂
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Very interesting and informative post, Lada! I’m really happy I read it!
My friends in Lebanon have been recently asking me for some good online resources to learn Russian 🙂
So I will send them the link to this post 🙂
Thank you! You are awesome!
Glad I could help, Sofia! 🙂
Lady Ray, How many languages do you speak with native or near-native fluency?
Fabulous post.An eye opener.Thank you for liking my post ( Best Version…) warm wishes.jalal
l do speak Arabic,English, German, Armenian , and Turkish.Languages help me a lot when l travel..Tanks for liking my post ( The L>A> Times.) have a wonderful day.jalal
Same to you, Jalal! Your polyglot skills are impressive 🙂
Hello Lada,
Very interesting reading indeed. Could you recommend some literature on the topic about synthetic and analytical languages?
I am learning Russian since 7 months in Moscow and would like to have a better understanding in order to find potential ways to learn the language a bit faster; my main constrain is that my work language is English and I only learn Russian as an extra personal objective.
I am fluent in Spanish (native speaker), German, English and French; and have some basic knowledge in Italian, Portuguese and Turkish. I could therefore follow well your comments above. I read about synthetic/analytical languages in a Moscow Times article and thought that understanding this better would improve my learning curve.
Thanks in advance.
Take care.
Fernando
Hello, Fernando.
Great list of languages! You obviously have talent. 🙂
Yes, I agree with you. Absolutely, theoretical grasp of differences and similarities of various languages is very helpful, and even necessary, in their practical study.
To answer your question, the above discussion on synthetic vs. analytical languages is in part based on my study under the wing of the distinguished Russian Foreign Languages School, and in part, on my own lifetime experience, observation, and practice of various languages.
I would love to recommend to you a popular read on the topic, but I don’t know of any that exists outside of advanced academic programs. I recommend doing a search – perhaps you can find books or other sources on this subject online, or you can apply for a college program while in Russia.
Best of luck,
Lada Ray
Great post, thanks for sharing.
Very welcome 🙂
Thank you for the posts. I am looking for Russian dialogs to learn by myself. Do you know website like that to learn ? Thank you so much!
Please check out the links I provided. If there are no free dialogues there, you may want to purchase one of the programs or find Russian-speakers to practice.
Thank you for your interest.
The “frivolous” tenses of English come from its rather convoluted history. Even in the earliest stages when English appeared it incorporated Celtic languages (which have very different tense structures) and a few variant Germanic languages. Add in the tendency to pick up bits and pieces from just about any other language with which English comes into contact, and it’s possible to see why she’s really rather an undiscerning trollope.
True statement. Considering the early Celtic influence, plus, its bifurcated group designation – about 60% of English words are of Germanic origin and at least 30-35% are Romanic – it’s a pretty colorful heritage for sure. And of course, English underwent further transformation (for better or for worse) when it became Americanized.
We have to remember that this is true of all languages to some degree – every language picks up lots of bits and peaces, and various influences, evolving and morfing into something new all the time.
Good day Lada Ray.
My wife was raised in the former Soviet Union and I would love to give her a Russian-speaking husband as a gift, and because of that I plan on quietly learning the Russian language and eventually surprise her.
Thank you for all the resources posted in the article above, as I am sure that more than one of them will come in handy in the following months of learning. However I am finding a bit difficult to learn Russian when using English lessons and learning resources.
Given that English is my second language, would it be easier for me to search for training in my native language? Spanish is my 1st language is that makes any difference.
Thanks again!
Hola, Luis! Creo que la gustaria muchissimo a su esposa bonita este regalo muy precioso!
This is precious indeed that you want to give your wife such a beautiful gift! She is a really lucky lady to have a husband like you.
You’re right, it would be better to learn from your first language, although your English seems excellent. But if you feel more comfortable, you should learn based on Spanish reference, since third language may create an interference.
Check with the links provided if they have any Spanish-based Russian language courses. If not, perhaps, you can find such courses sold from Spain or Latin America.
Buena suerte e felicidades! Congratulations to both of you on your blessed marriage!
Hi, great resources. I learned to read Russian with the video program below:
http://russianacceleratoronline.com/russian-alphabet-mastery-1/
It uses the contextual approach similar to the course Russian Accelerator course, and it got me from being pretty much stuck to making progress. So just wanted to mention it for others.
Great post!
Thank you for your input! Very nice. 🙂
This is wonderful – so easy to comprehend.
I agree with you ‘makes you kinda think’, that we are all of the same (language) family really.
I’m impressed you’re a linguist. Magnificent.
Thank you for the lovely comment and great to see you, my friend 🙂
Another Russian Language-learning software for beginners from Verbilis: http://www.verbilis.com
This is awesome! Thanks! I would love to take on Russian someday (still mastering Mandarin), and hopefully one day my language school (BRIC Language Systems) will start offering Russian as well. 🙂
The focus on similarities rather than differences is something we can use with all languages, though. Like a lot of things in life, your mindset makes or breaks you.
Hi Lada, what an interesting and informative article, thanks!
I’m a native English speaker but have learned to speak at a (near) native Spanish level by using methods similar to what you’ve described here.
This summer I will be in Kiev, and plan to study Russian there. I have no doubt your method will work equally well for Russian as it did for Spanish.
Putting aside current political issues, do you think it’s a good idea from an academic standpoint to study Russian in Ukraine?
I’ll be there because of a Ukrainian girlfriend (who grew up speaking more Russian than Ukrainian), so I’ll have a good teacher with me. But I do wonder if I’ll be learning a sub-optimal dialect of Russian, perhaps with an unusual accent?
I decided to study Russian rather than Ukrainian, because of the more widespread use of Russian in Europe and other places than of Ukrainian.
So, I guess the question that I’m asking is, as they’d say in Spanish: ‘vale la pena o no’?
Thanks so much and look forward to future posts by you!
-Scott
Hi Scott,
I think studying Russian is a very worthy endeavour – si, vale la pena. Ukrainian – no la vale. I speak Ukrainian, btw.
But I would definitely NOT study Russian in Kiev. First, yes, the accent is wrong. The “g” is pronounced too softly, which kills the language, and there are some other accent issues.
That is not the only issue, however. I don’t know your and your girlfriend’s situation. But does she not tell you that people are afraid to speak Russian aloud in Kiev nowadays? Or that current Kiev authorities are threatening to ban Russian? That Russian-speakers are forced to leave town for fear of their lives?
Best of luck. For Russian you should definitely be in Russia.
If interested in geopolitics, you may want to check out my articles analyzing what’s happening in Ukraine at http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/.
First of all Lada, thanks for your quick reply.
And wow-I knew things were unsettled there but maybe I have been deluding myself a bit as to what’s really going on. I met the GF in Kiev last summer, which now must feel like a lifetime ago for everyone there.
My GF is optimistic/hopeful by nature and is convinced things won’t get to the “Russian tanks in the street of Kiev” level. But honestly, who other than Putin really knows?
Regarding studying Russian, I’ll be honest–you’ve spooked me. I’ve traveled extensively and have lived on a few different continents and in some fairly ‘dicey’ countries, so unstable places generally don’t scare me.
But what you’re saying is something else, essentially the real risk of a civil war there and me as a Russian student appearing to lean towards the other (wrong in Kiev) side…
My plan was to study Russian in Kiev and then visit Russia (Saint Petersburg) for a few months later in the year (again, assuming things don’t get worse).
But it sounds like studying Russian in Kiev (apart from the linguistic differences) would be a really bad idea.
Well, I’m pretty sure I will go to Ukraine either way (asi es el amor!), but maybe this isn’t the summer to add another language to my list, at least not publicly…
Thanks again Lada, you’ve been really helpful and I’ve got a lot to think about…
There will be no Russian tanks on Kiev streets. Russian govt is doing everything to calm down the situation, while US and EU, Western MSM, as well as Kiev, do everything to escalate it.
I am a little confused as to where you, or your GF, got the info about Russian tanks? From US propaganda and/or from Kiev propaganda? It’s the other way around – people in Ukraine’s east and south are afraid of the tanks from Kiev. The aggressor is Kiev. Russian-speakers are under attack – not the illegitimate powers in Kiev, who have executed a nazi coup and unseated democratically elected president with USA’s direct help and $5bln in financing as admitted by Asst Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. You can read articles in my link that explain everything. Russian-speakers are trembling for their lives there – for me this isn’t a joke that these so-called authorities in Kiev brought nazis to power who directly threaten Russian-speakers in the country.
I am glad that you consider my reply as helpful, but I think that maybe you are listening too much to the US propaganda, and/or to Ukrainian propaganda. Again, I know nothing about you, but it seriously saddens me that people are so brainwashed and are unwilling to find out the truth even when it’s offered to them on a platter.
Also, I am just confused, by your reaction to my words you seem anti-Russian. In that case, what for do you need to study the Russian language?
Oh wow, Lada, I’m not anti-Russian at all! I’m sorry if I gave you that impression. In fact, the place fascinates me and I’m really excited to visit it. And from anecdotal experience, I have only good things to say about Russians that I’ve met around the world.
And I was being overly dramatic in talking about “Russian tanks in the streets”. I know the conflict, if it happens, is almost certain to stay in the eastern Oblasts of Ukraine.
Also, I wasn’t trying to comment about which side is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’. To be honest, I guess I had tunnel vision, focused on my own goals trip this summer and hoping that my GF stays safe.
Apart from that, I have no real idea of what is going on there. In those situations, best to not comment. Otherwise, one will only reveal the depth of their ignorance!
But yes, I’m from the US. Though, I haven’t live there in over 5 years and have always loathed ‘news’ channels from almost every country. I think most are very agenda/hysteria/etc. driven.
The US news channels are particularly egregious in their coverage of almost any story-usually ill-informed and sensational.
So, I don’t watch much news or read many blogs…
Anyway, to me, and based on my very limited experience, both countries (Ukraine/Russia) are fascinating, with wonderful people (and beautiful women! 😉 ) and I just hope things get resolved peacefully…
And ya esta!
p.s., thanks again, and no matter what ultimately happens, I do want to learn Russian–it will be a good challenge for me. And someday, I want to read their great authors in the original language!
Forgot to add, the GF is not anti-Russian in any way. She grew up very close to the Russian border, speaking Russian. And she still has extended family in Russia.
Sorry about any confusion–I thought that I wrote clearly, but I guess I need to go back and study my own language!
What is happening, Scott, is that your country usa and its allies, through their clandestine actions by “subverting” Ukraine, are trying to destroy my culture. And my culture is both Russian and Ukrainian, and Belorussian as well, as this is one people – it is a huge, unique and very important to the peace and integrity of the world ancient RUS culture.
And they try to divide and destroy my culture – yet again! – so no one would get in the way of their global plans. I used to talk exactly like you do just recently, giving eveyone the benefit of the doubt and staying away from the media as it was all disgusting lies. But what they had done in Ukraine is the last straw!
Presently, I am not in any mood for jokes or niceties.
The sooner people wake up to who their leaders are and where they are trying to lead the world, the better for everyone.
Either way, wishing you all the best.
I feel like I’ve wandered into the deep end of the swimming pool, Lada!
Honestly, I’m not in a position to comment intelligently on what is going on inside or outside of Ukraine right now.
I have heard reports that the US/West is in part responsible for things that happened before the most recent developments (I’m talking now about the ‘revolution’ that happened, deposing Yanukovych, etc.)
While I am a US citizen, I haven’t lived there in 5 years and also hold an EU passport, so I don’t think I can speak about that side of the issue, either…
Maybe I’m being naive or simplistic, but I always prefer to focus on what I can personally change in my life as opposed to larger political developments over which I have absolutely no control or ability to change.
Like most people, I hope that this crisis can be resolved without bloodshed and that the citizens of both countries can return to their ‘normal’ lives. Maybe that is delusional. I honestly don’t know.
I do hope that I can learn Russian soon, though-either in Ukraine (or probably better) in Russia. I love new challenges and this one should be a good test for me!
Thanks again for everything, Lada. This has been one of the most eye-opening and interesting exchanges I’ve ever had on the internet.
Putting aside political issues for a second, I also want to commend you for being an advocate of learning new languages and exposing oneself to the larger world out there beyond our own home country borders.
Please keep up the good work–it’s really important!
Best,
-Scott.
No problem. I understand. Best to your GF and yourself. Keep safe.
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Please keep up the good work–it’s really important!
Thanks, very nice of you.
I do hope that I can learn Russian soon, though-either in Ukraine (or probably better) in Russia. I love new challenges and this one should be a good test for me!